Why 24fps is not enough for HDR movies

[Torben Rasmussen]

KS8000 is surely not in the same league as OLED..

That's sure, but your entire review and comparison are based on UHD HDR signals that are not the sources that we can use at moment, the most part of tv series, bluray movies, sat/dtt broadcast are in fullhd and often the bitrate is not enough to ensure picture quality, unfortunately this is the truth

so apart the bluray UHD HDR, it's your opinion that even in that cases the Oled LG is better than a samsung lcd?

what about football events?

leaving the perfect black is the LG's image processing on par with Samsung / Sony / Panasonic?

In terms of motion I would rate the OLED the same as KS8. True, if you engage Auto Motion on Samsung, you will get a lot more detail in moving objects than on the LG OLED, but then you get soap opera effect so it doesn't really count in my book. You might disagree and prefer this effect, but then we aren't discussing the matter on a common ground. On the preffered settings of motion systems both will provide about the same experience in e.g. sports broadcasts.

The Samsung doesn't turn low bitrate material into gold perceivably better than the LG does, and I would rate the signal handling to be good on both of them.

[Bokkoman]

When I use your settings, white isn't really white. Colors look really good though. Is this normal? White looks a little warm.

[mamilia]

Hello to everyone and I would like to thank Torben for the great review Has anyone noticed any banding problems?

[Rasmus Larsen]

When I use your settings, white isn't really white. Colors look really good though. Is this normal? White looks a little warm.

We aim for a 6500 Kelvin white point, optimal for a dark viewing environment. 6500 Kelvin is a little warm in the tone, yes.

[Bokkoman]

When I use your settings, white isn't really white. Colors look really good though. Is this normal? White looks a little warm.

We aim for a 6500 Kelvin white point, optimal for a dark viewing environment. 6500 Kelvin is a little warm in the tone, yes.

Do you also have settings for viewing in daylight?

[Rasmus Larsen]

No sorry.

But a good guideline is to use a higher backlight setting and maybe aim for a slightly higher color temperature (depends on your environment). All the dynamic options should still be off.

[simolnx]

Hi,

Did you manage to verify the LED zones count from the mumbled "32" in the presentation?

Thank you

[ozthegweat]

When does this micro-stutter issue pop up? Is it also there when turning all the image enhancing features off (e.g. in Game mode)?

I find it a bit hard to believe that every Samsung TV produced in the past few years has unavoidable, intermittent stuttering, yet this is neither acknowledged by Samsung, mentioned in reviews (other than here) nor brought up by buyers. I'm not calling flatpanelshd liars, I just want to understand the situation a bit better.

[Torben Rasmussen]

Game mode should make the issue disappear.

Micro-stutter is something you have to pay attention to spot. It is random 1 frame freezes that pops up on some occations - predominantly when changes scenes in a movie. Poor signals tend to increase the frequency of the stutters. I can't tell you why others fail to spot them, but I can backtrack the issue all the way back to the ES-series (that my parents have).

[Crunchie]

I've had micro-stutter with my 2014 UK 55HU7500 - I use the Clear motion setting on sport/news/soaps (PAL 50Hz video sources) which is generally stutter-free, but stutters appear on these sources when I use the Standard or Smooth motion settings which are needed to smooth out film programmes or reduced-frame filmed inserts. I don't mind the soap-opera look, but I do object to stuttering. I've just ordered a 55KS8000 to see if any improvements have been made since 2014. If not then I'll send it back and try out another brand (but do Sony TVs allow audio-sync adjustment? I believe not).

[franco.bluto]

EDIT 07.24.2017

My UN 55 KS 8000 QDOT HDR 1000 (UE KS 8000) TV binned for a a Samsung FA01 Panel code is stonking good for an active edge dimming LCD TV , very bright on HDR .SDR , HD or SD and it is still one of the brightest LCD TV's around in 2017 .)

The Samsung FA01 QDOT panel is up to ~7000:1 contrast and up to ~ 1474 NIT (cd/m2) HDR peaks depending on the variables and calibrations. SDR brightness can peak at 1332 NIT (cd/m2) lumapower

The panel has excellent LCD contrast ,blacks ,terrific dynamic range ,color and range topping brightness for an LCD panel .

The Samsung Smart hub Smart TV platform is miles ahead , faster and more stable than Sony Android in my Sony UN 55X850C and the One Connect is way cool with only one cable to the TV aside from the mains cord.

This Samsung UN 55 KS8000 is 3.515 x brighter than my 4K HDR Sony X850C and a real HDR 1000 TV ,that said the 2015 Sony 55X850C (X85C) is a decent wide color 4K SDR TV in the family cinema room now

The Samsung UN 55 KS 8000 TV is only 1.7 inches or ~43mm thick at the thickest part (bottom

The Samsung smart remote is intuitive ,with just a few buttons & R/F capable ,it controls the TV and my RF DirecTV set top box like a boss

The Samsung Smart remote is miles ahead of a Sony Andoid TV remote .

My Harmony remote can probably control the earth's rotation with the right codes but it cost ~ $100.00 usd. and has a zillion buttons too

I really like the Samsung smart remote for the TV and D*TV STB/DVR !